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		<title>By: Colby</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My current employer is the first to pay for anything, it&#039;s very, very nice. They won&#039;t pay for training (at least not so far), but they will pay for Cisco exams, thankfully.

My manager probably realizes that if (or when, hopefully) I get the IE they&#039;ll either have to give me a big bump or I&#039;ll seek other employment. I doubt I&#039;ll get the bump, lol.

I completely agree with you on composite exams, I didn&#039;t dare try to take the BSCI+BCMSN composite, it was just too much stuff to cram in. I feel a little better about BGP+MPLS since a lot of it is complementary and it&#039;s really just two technologies, albeit very, very deep technologies. I&#039;m ok with giving this one a shot, especially after what I&#039;m hearing. I&#039;ll know next week whether it was a mistake or not, hah.

Ps. I like your blog, I&#039;m adding a link to it on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current employer is the first to pay for anything, it&#8217;s very, very nice. They won&#8217;t pay for training (at least not so far), but they will pay for Cisco exams, thankfully.</p>
<p>My manager probably realizes that if (or when, hopefully) I get the IE they&#8217;ll either have to give me a big bump or I&#8217;ll seek other employment. I doubt I&#8217;ll get the bump, lol.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you on composite exams, I didn&#8217;t dare try to take the BSCI+BCMSN composite, it was just too much stuff to cram in. I feel a little better about BGP+MPLS since a lot of it is complementary and it&#8217;s really just two technologies, albeit very, very deep technologies. I&#8217;m ok with giving this one a shot, especially after what I&#8217;m hearing. I&#8217;ll know next week whether it was a mistake or not, hah.</p>
<p>Ps. I like your blog, I&#8217;m adding a link to it on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Forsaken</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you misunderstand me hehe

I have to learn enough to do the hard versions of the exams anyway, so I&#039;d prefer to use them as my check. The knowledge is what&#039;s important to me, and the more questions I can answer that &#039;count&#039;, the better off I think it is for me. 

Of course I have no incentive to take the easier path, work doesn&#039;t care what certs I do, they won&#039;t pay for any training, and so on, and management probably doesn&#039;t realize it yet, but my coworkers certainly do - once I pass the CCIE, I&#039;m most likely gone. I don&#039;t think management will be willing to pay the salary to keep two CCIE&#039;s on staff, so I&#039;m in no rush. I&#039;m pretty much on a 2 year plan as it is. 

I&#039;ve just never been a big fan of composite exams, I prefer to be able to focus my studies. Of course I might as well get used to the prospect, since the CCIE Written is really just one big Composite exam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you misunderstand me hehe</p>
<p>I have to learn enough to do the hard versions of the exams anyway, so I&#8217;d prefer to use them as my check. The knowledge is what&#8217;s important to me, and the more questions I can answer that &#8216;count&#8217;, the better off I think it is for me. </p>
<p>Of course I have no incentive to take the easier path, work doesn&#8217;t care what certs I do, they won&#8217;t pay for any training, and so on, and management probably doesn&#8217;t realize it yet, but my coworkers certainly do &#8211; once I pass the CCIE, I&#8217;m most likely gone. I don&#8217;t think management will be willing to pay the salary to keep two CCIE&#8217;s on staff, so I&#8217;m in no rush. I&#8217;m pretty much on a 2 year plan as it is. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just never been a big fan of composite exams, I prefer to be able to focus my studies. Of course I might as well get used to the prospect, since the CCIE Written is really just one big Composite exam.</p>
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		<title>By: Colby</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, though I&#039;m ok with taking the easier path as getting the cert doesn&#039;t mean I stop learning. If you&#039;re against taking the easy way out, maybe you should limit the amount of study materials you have access to, or quit labbing as a learning tool, or hell, may as well poke one of your eyes out. Doing all this with one eye would be even less easy.:D

Regardless of getting the cert, I&#039;ll still be studying, learning and labbing. I can&#039;t get enough of this stuff. The CCIE is my end goal as well, but I need something to fill the time until I&#039;m ready to revisit that road.

The benefit of the cert is that I&#039;ll (hopefully) get a little bump at work, or have an easier time finding a new job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, though I&#8217;m ok with taking the easier path as getting the cert doesn&#8217;t mean I stop learning. If you&#8217;re against taking the easy way out, maybe you should limit the amount of study materials you have access to, or quit labbing as a learning tool, or hell, may as well poke one of your eyes out. Doing all this with one eye would be even less easy.:D</p>
<p>Regardless of getting the cert, I&#8217;ll still be studying, learning and labbing. I can&#8217;t get enough of this stuff. The CCIE is my end goal as well, but I need something to fill the time until I&#8217;m ready to revisit that road.</p>
<p>The benefit of the cert is that I&#8217;ll (hopefully) get a little bump at work, or have an easier time finding a new job.</p>
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		<title>By: Forsaken</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard the same thing, and had the same debate.

I&#039;m personally going the two exam option because I don&#039;t *want* the easy way out. The CCIP is CCIE prep for me, so the goal is to get as familiar with BGP and MPLS as I possibly can. CCIP is just something I pick up along the way to CCIE, not an end goal in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard the same thing, and had the same debate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally going the two exam option because I don&#8217;t *want* the easy way out. The CCIP is CCIE prep for me, so the goal is to get as familiar with BGP and MPLS as I possibly can. CCIP is just something I pick up along the way to CCIE, not an end goal in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin Chia</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelvin Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Not paying for it? Lucky you. :D

If i rememeber correctly it was only 42 - 45 questions for BGP+MPLS including of lab.

All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Not paying for it? Lucky you. <img src='http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If i rememeber correctly it was only 42 &#8211; 45 questions for BGP+MPLS including of lab.</p>
<p>All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Colby</title>
		<link>http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/personal/which-exams-for-ccip/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said &quot;composite&quot; I was talking about BGP+MPLS. I&#039;m already done with the CCNP, so I don&#039;t have to worry about BSCI, thankfully.

30 minutes for BGP+MPLS? Wow, that&#039;s insane. I&#039;ve read that there are only ~50 questions on it, which is less than I can remember on a Cisco exam. Thanks for the info!

BGP+MPLS is looking more appealing, especially since I&#039;m not paying, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said &#8220;composite&#8221; I was talking about BGP+MPLS. I&#8217;m already done with the CCNP, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about BSCI, thankfully.</p>
<p>30 minutes for BGP+MPLS? Wow, that&#8217;s insane. I&#8217;ve read that there are only ~50 questions on it, which is less than I can remember on a Cisco exam. Thanks for the info!</p>
<p>BGP+MPLS is looking more appealing, especially since I&#8217;m not paying, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin Chia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cleared my CCIP few days back.
My path was Composite, BGP+MPLS &amp; QoS.

Composite paper was more like 50% for each BSCI and BCMSN and i encountered about 4 labs if i remember correctly.

As for BGP+MPLS paper i had about 3 Labs once again if i remember correctly and the paper is rather easy. Completed the paper about 30mins. Know the fundamental and you wont go wrong :D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleared my CCIP few days back.<br />
My path was Composite, BGP+MPLS &amp; QoS.</p>
<p>Composite paper was more like 50% for each BSCI and BCMSN and i encountered about 4 labs if i remember correctly.</p>
<p>As for BGP+MPLS paper i had about 3 Labs once again if i remember correctly and the paper is rather easy. Completed the paper about 30mins. Know the fundamental and you wont go wrong <img src='http://blog.alwaysthenetwork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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